Monday, October 30, 2017

What Elton said to Spacey

Due to a tech glitch this old post got lost so I am reposting ... so continue to send abusive comments, or otherwise ...

With Kevin Spacey in mind, my mind turns to a long conversation I had with a close associate of the actor (this is not a gay outing site, incidentally - it's just the new beige right now in Arcati-land).

Anyway, his associate - let's call him Quentin. I asked Quentin a simple question: Why is Spacey so bothered about being viewed as gay? This was the reply:

"I don't know. According to David Furnish, Elton John asked Kevin to a lunch or dinner party in the South of France. And Elton asked him direct about his sexuality and apparently Kevin got quite pretty cross and wouldn't answer the question.

"Elton said: 'Everyone knows you're a screaming queen, why don't you come clean?' and Kevin got very cross. It's partly to do with the way Hollywood works but it's also part of the matinee idol thing where he wants to be the leading man, and he's not. He would really have to be Johnny Depp .... "

Some point soon I will publish the entire conversation with Quentin on Spacey.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

< Due to a tech glitch this old post got lost so I am reposting ... so continue to send abusive comments, or otherwise ... >

Do you pull this little trick every time your intellectual comfort is disturbed ? How convenient ! :-)

Susan Hill said...

Dirk Bogarde was just the same...and I loved him to bits but it did make him look silly, just as it makes Spacey look even sillier now the climate has changed so much it is practically compulsory to be gay.

Arcati said...

The Dirk Bogarde comparison is most appropriate. Excellent writer though he was, his series of memoirs were evasive, generally dishonest and showbizzy in perspective: he was overly preoccupied with his public.

Even sadder than such closet cases are their fans who engage in evasion on behalf of their idols. It's what I term vicarious denial arising from either over-identification or unacknowledged bigotry: for instance, there are many many Spacey fans out there who can't stand the thought that he's gay. This maybe because they are homophobic - and there's nothing quite like a homophobe than a gay homophobe.

Susan Hill said...

Worst of all is the closet gay man who pretends to like women, to the extent of breaking hearts. If someone has a problem with their sexuality, whatever it is, then that is difficult for them but they absolutely may not use others and deceive them to assist in keeping up a front. It is cruel and unkind and these days quite unnecessary. Dirk was slightly guilty of it but there are many worse. I know not about Spacey.

Stella said...

What ?!!! Susan Hill, the respectable novelist who writes for my children is now compromising herserf by posting on this nasty little blog ? Unbelievable ! Does she know about it, at least ? Easy to check out...

Arcati said...

Dear Stella, so what are you doing slumming it in this "nasty little blog"? Accidentally clicked in via Google did we? "Honest, guv, I were just on my way 'ome."

Susan Hill is a writer of incomparable taste and worldliness and knows class when she sees it. I really think some of my visitors should stick to the UK Daily Express as a voice of their inner soul evolution. Not that I speak for Susan Hill, but as a clairvoyante I know these things.

stella said...

Well, I found a link to this blog on Susan Hill's site, and it surprises me that she posts here, 'cause she doesn't seem obsessed at all by the gay theme, but obviously you are, in a very unhealthy way, I fear. That's why I was wondering... never mind.

Arcati said...

Oh my! Well then go back to your Reader's Digest - plenty of healthy, reassuring stuff there for you - you poor little hetero-lamb.

zork said...

Hahaha, "abusive comments", I love it, above all coming from someone who is a professional line-crosser... in a "coward's" disguise ! ;-)

dinu said...

I’ve been reading you for a while now, and I’m getting so irritated that I can’t keep it in anymore.
Do you actually believe that such artists as Dirk Bogarde, John Gielgud or Kevin Spacey had or have no higher ambition in life than to be registered on a list of famous gays ? Seriously, this is the most ludicrous petty-bourgeois vision I’ve seen since long ago.
Listen to me, you brainless bitches, I’m a gay man, it’s no secret, but first of all I’m a human being and an artist, a musician, and one thing is certain : I’ll never tolerate being reduced to my sexual orientation, nor will I ever allow anyone – not even the best-intentioned gay activist – to lock me up against my will in any narrow sexual closet, like some freak in a circus cage. And let me tell you I’d be much more than “very cross” if I ever heard anyone say about me : “Do you know Dinu, the GAY Romanian violinist ?” What next ? Would I be condemned to play Britten, Schubert and Hahn for the rest of my life, when I want Mozart, Bach and Dvorak as well ?
Let me put the record straight : we gay artists have absolutely no problem with our fans. They love us and respect us regardless. But we do have a hard time dealing with the likes of YOU, giggling gossips and low tabloid penpushers. YOU are the ones who insistently, heavily bring up sex (dirty sex, needless to say) when all we want to give you is art and beauty. YOU are the ones we regularly have to put in their place. Can’t you leave us the hell alone, for Christ’s sake ?
Hold on, Kevin, be strong, I’m with you, together we’ll f… them right off, that’s all they deserve !

Arcati said...

Wow, that's great. I love that. Allow my damp hair to dry in your hot exhalations. Oh yes, Madame Arcati is revived on this - this Sanatogen of fury.

dinu said...

My pleasure ! I like to make people high all around me :->

Marti said...

Oh my gawd, this is just too delicious! I MUST thank Grumpy Old Bookman for pointing me here!

You're going on my blogroll, sugar!
(I'm sure that just lit up your day - lol)

Anonymous said...

“Do you actually believe that such artists as Dirk Bogarde, John Gielgud or Kevin Spacey had or have no higher ambition in life than to be registered on a list of famous gays ?”

You’re so right about this, dinu ! I’m a young british actress and that man (I mean Mr. Spacey) is my personal hero. I was privileged enough to meet him sometimes at the Old Vic Pit Bar and on the occasion of the 24 hours plays. Such a nice guy, so enthusiastic for his art and so charismatic ! Here’s an article which depicts him better than the Arcati / Tamblyn gang will ever do :
http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.uk/1000whatson/0300theatre/tm_headline=spacey-odyssey&method=full&objectid=18167155&si%20teid=50100-name_page.html

Who cares about his private life, whatever ? He’s so busy that one might even wonder if he’s got one ! Besides, he’s in his late forties now, more than half bald and his face is lined and tired. It’s not like he was the new young heartthrob of Hollywood !

Unless Arcati / Tamblyn (maybe one and the same person, as far as I can guess) has / have a serious problem with her / their father ? That could explain... :-)

Anyway, this controversy is just ridiculous !!!

Anonymous said...

OOOPS, forgot a sentence in my previous post :

Besides, he’s in his late forties now, more than half bald and his face is lined and tired. And he was already in his late thirties when he had his "big break" in The Usual Suspects. It’s not like he was the new young heartthrob of Hollywood !

Sorry...

Arcati said...

Robin Tamblyn and Arcati are not one and the same, for the record. All this defence of Spacey when he's not at all under attack! Celebrity converts the subject into cultural fodder - do wise up, chucks.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, right. You're supporting and advertising one of his most shameless stalkers, but he's not under attack. What then if he were !

zork said...

Arcati and Tamblyn, one and the same person ? Hahaha, could be, why not ? The cyberspace is packed with avatars, and with avatars’ avatars.

Since you’re talking about it… It actually looks like our fiercely sarcastic Arcati has an unexplainable crush on that pathetic nutcase she should logically have drowned in vitriol without mercy. I notice that Arcati seems way too concerned in defending Tamblyn’s work and publishing method. The least one can say is that she’s suspiciously indulgent towards her obsession with Spacey’s private life. Plus, the "interview" of Tamblyn is obviously phony – by that I mean that the questions are too perfectly fitted to the answers, as though the interviewer knew them all in advance… Odd impression, indeed. That made me a little uneasy, but I didn’t dare go any further in speculation… I should borrow Arcati’s crystal ball, that would help ! ;-)
Just an objective outsider’s view, for what it’s worth… Okay, I know, you'll tell me I have way too much time on my hands these days. But this blog is so much fun ! Isn't that a good excuse ?

Arcati said...

Dear Inspector Zork

Well, guv, it was like this. I emailed the bleedin' questions to Robin and he wrote 'is answers, like. Makes a change from all those make-'em-up interviews you get in the rags - just ask Spacey.

Love MA x

Anonymous said...

Me thinks madame Arcati and miss Tamblyn would make a great couple. The first one is probably a gay man in a female avatar, and the second is a gay male in a woman's body. They're made for each other ! :-)))

Anonymous said...

And oh, I almost forgot : they both love / hate Kevin Spacey !

duralex said...

<< The first one [Arcati] is probably a gay man in a female avatar >>

WHAT ?!!! Oooooh, tabernak ! I knew I should have switched on the light before I... ahem, no, nothing, it's just a little in-joke between Arcati and me, don't pay attention. ;-)

Anonymous said...

< Me thinks madame Arcati and miss Tamblyn would make a great couple. The first one is probably a gay man in a female avatar, and the second is a gay male in a woman's body. They're made for each other ! :-))) >

Stop that game, for Christ's sake, it's not funny ! Can't you see Tamblin's case is totally desperate ? Even after a surgical FTM transgender process, that poor girl would have no chance with the object of her lust whatsoever. A 'little' something would always be lacking 'somewhere'. Have some sympathy, this is a tearjerker romantic story !

Anonymous said...

Sweet bleeding irony ! I really love that !

duralex said...

Something that cracks me up: her guestbook is currently flooded with viagra spams. Now that's what I call taking short cuts, they'd better suggest her a penis enlargement first ! :-)))

Anonymous said...

Oh,I laughed so hard when I read this,I almost peed myself.Elton John calling K.S. "a screaming queen" ? Now that's something coming from "The King of Queens" himself!

Alastair said...

Has Quentin done the whole interview. Quentin email me alastair_r2010 at warm mail dot com